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Friday, October 19, 2007

Fare thee well

Proponents of a streetcar system through downtown and Over-the-Rhine better not count the change in the fare box just yet.

The $102 million plan announced earlier this week suggested that Duke Energy might be willing to pony up $20 million or so for the electrical grid to power the line. After all, it was reasoned, the street cars would be long-term high-paying electric customers.

It took Duke about a day and a half to say no to the idea. Spokesman Steve Brash says the company is willing to talk, but not about a $20 million gift.

I like the idea, but the planners will need to come up with some more specific numbers to attract the investors needed to make this train run on time.


6 Comments:

at 8:03 PM, October 19, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

if each of our fortune five hundred companies give one average 2 million dollars we have the 20 million we need.

The streetcar will lead to 1.4 billion of economic activity in the urban core and it will help the fortune 500 companies attract and retain the young talent that is in such high demand. young proffessionals want to live in dynamic places like new york, chicago, san fransisco, altanta and portland. the commonality among all of these places is mass transit. if cincinnati wants to compete nationally we need a strong mass transit system. The streetcar is the first of many steps required.

By the way, oil crossed $90 for the first time this week and gas prices have been at around or above $3 since Katrina. If the United States wants to be energy independent, a strong electric streetcar and rail system must be a crucial component of our strategy

 
at 8:38 PM, October 19, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope that the streetcar plan does not go away as i feel that it won't. A streetcar is a good idea for OTR and downtown and for Cincinnati but try to convince the other neighborhoods.

 
at 9:37 AM, October 20, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is NOT what the presentation said. The presentation said $20 M from public/private partnerships. Duke is an example of one of the partnerships. And considering what they will end up making in the long run, it would be a smart decision to pony up some money. Duke needs to get on board.

Why would you try to sink a conceptual finance plan? Please don't give credence to the misinformation from a reporter who was just looking for the negative in the story.
I hope you will consider editing your comments.

 
at 7:39 PM, October 20, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you are saying that people choose where to live based on what kind of mass trasit system they have? That may be one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on here. And oil above 90 means absolutely nothing to this debate. The trolly system will only circle around downtown, a place where most people walk anyway. Even if they did drive, it only takes about .50 worth of gas to drive the loop that the trolly would take.

 
at 10:01 PM, October 20, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

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Just how much was CG&E (now duke) given in corporate welfare ?

We seem to recall a massive give-a-way !

Give-me, Give-me, but don't look for any ROI. !

 
at 9:20 AM, October 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Attn: 7:39 PM Oct. 20th

They sure enough do, and I did. Good bye Ma, goodbye Pa. Can't help it if I was born in a backwater. Seriously, I found that other cities were easier to navigate, and employment was more plentiful and the $ went farther when I didn't have car payments, and repairs. I did well in my career and came back to be with family.

Don't kid yourself. The Cincinnati area is a VERY difficult place to live irrespective of a so-called "pleasant pace". It kills me that people have been tricked into driving miles to get to a Trader Joe's or some such attraction when they should be living in better integrated, small, walkable neighborhoods to get a variety of products.

So, I'm here and I'm going to work hard to be a good contributor to my city, but, yes, there are better urban environments by far.

 
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