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Thursday, March 06, 2008

Free speech doesn't require good manners

I hate anonymous Internet postings but I hate this stupid idea more.

As noted on Pat Crowley’s N.Ky. Politics blog, Kentucky Rep. Tim Couch, R-Hyden, has filed a bill that would require anybody posting to a Web site to first register using their legal name, address and valid e-mail address.

Couch knows this won’t go anywhere – he said as much in a Louisville Courier Journal story – but he wants to pound his chest and waste time about it down in Frankfort all the same.

Generally speaking, I think people who put up anonymous postings and comments on the Internet are cowardly blowhards. But they have an absolute First Amendment right to be cowardly blowhards if that’s how they prefer to communicate with the rest of the world and Couch’s proposal would clearly be an unconstitutional infringement of free speech.

His objection to anonymous postings is that they often are nasty. He said some parents in his Eastern Kentucky district had complained to him about mean-spirited anonymous comments aimed at their kids. Like I said, cowardly blowhards, or perhaps in this case, name-calling children. But Couch also said he’s been the subject of anonymous online nastiness himself. That’s rude, but it’s no reason to rewrite the First Amendment.

People who disagree with public officials have an absolute right to say so – politely or not. You should be willing to put your name to your opinion, but that’s a free speech choice.

I, David Wells, think Tim Couch’s proposal is a boneheaded idea designed to placate a few constituents without really accomplishing anything.

See, it’s easy. But you should feel free to respond to this opinion, by name or not.


19 Comments:

at 6:40 PM, March 06, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

David, thank you for clearly stating your disdain for anonymous posters on your blog. I'm glad to know you believe your readers are "Cowardly BlowHards". You often "come across" with your air of superiority. So no surprise here. Most Liberals feel their thoughts are superior to all others.

Why do we need to be anonymous?
-We don't get paid to blog nor have time to spell check and review as your resources permit.
-You are GOD. You may choose to monitor and disapprove of publishing our comments. Why subject ourselves to your authority by our legal name? Who are you to merit this power? Now who is the blowhard?

So I am able to invest 2 minutes in my reply to you, while you probably wrote your piece in 10+ minutes because its your job.

 
at 10:23 PM, March 06, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Cowardly blowhards"? "Name-calling children"? Hasn't Willie Cunningham been punished enough?

 
at 7:42 AM, March 07, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I try to always be courteous and stay on topic, but I admit to getting some sarcastic zingers in once in awhile, whereas, in person, I might be more likely to resort to a bit of eye-rolling instead. But I'm never really nasty. I'm just not that angry about life.

Which is why I remain anonymous; there are many, many people out there with a certain type of cultivated and nurtured anger which I find to be really frightening and the expression of which I most often see in the "real world" in the form of road rage. Another sort of semi-anonymity.

So, good luck chest thumping pol. I'll disappear if you really need to know who I am.

 
at 10:24 AM, March 07, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

David - Agree with you that Couch's proposal is politcal pandering and a boneheaded idea.

Your opinion that most anonymous posters are cowardly blowhards overstates reality.

I often post anonymously but try to be reasoned and respectable of others. The culture of blogs is that the vast majority of postings are anonymous for various reasons.

The real blowhards in my opinion are folks like Limbaugh and Cunningham and they arn't anonymous.

Dave Vandivier

 
at 11:07 AM, March 07, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Wells
Trash your audience. That’s a nice strategy for success. Why are the newspaper industry and traditional TV News outlets going the way of the dinosaur? These Publishers are out of touch with their younger potential audience and are unable to handle the competition from the new source media. Why do you liberals like to label their opposition with derogatory titles like “cowardly blowhard”? Editorialists and pundits with a dearth of rationale to support their arguments frequently resort to name calling. It’s predictable. Conservatives simply need to label their opposites accurately, as practicing “Liberals or Socialists” and the Liberals get all bent out of shape. Where did that “Air America” radio venture go? Were they blowhards but capitalist failures?
Signed,
Your Anonymous Cowardly Blowhard

 
at 11:10 AM, March 07, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

David:

You say "Generally speaking, I think people who put up anonymous postings and comments on the Internet are cowardly blowhards."

Blow harder, David.

 
at 1:00 PM, March 07, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen. I agree that all conservative loudmouth neanderthal neocon rightwing war-loving righteous know-nothing nut jobs are cowardly blowhards.

 
at 10:39 AM, March 08, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I post anonymously for two major reasons. One, I am looking for work, and employers look at blogs. Although I have the Constitutional right of freedom of speech, many employers won't hire someone who has a differing viewpoint from theirs, and often times my viewpoint is rather controversial to some people. I don't ever spout my opinions in the workplace (that's completely inappropriate), but having my name on a blog is a sure-fire way to NOT get employed.

Two, I post anonymously for my safety and the safety of my family. People are becoming less tolerant of each other, and there is the real threat of violence against a person who doesn't agree with the lock-step, rank and file opinion of their neighbors. Look at what happened to the Dixie Chicks after one political opinion was printed; everything was done to try and ruin their careers. Now I may not agree with their opinion, but I certainly do not have the right to purposefully damage them for expressing it; it's their Constitutional right, too.

If our society can ever return to civil and reasonable debate without fist fighting, shooting each other, cross burning, vandalism or public shunning and career-destroying tactics; and when employers can hire a person for their qualifications, not their personal opinions, maybe this will change.

Until then, I'll remain anonymous, but I'll continue to post, because I hope I can make a positive contribution that way.

 
at 7:49 PM, March 08, 2008 Blogger Kevin LeMaster said...

There's absolutely no right to free speech on a private blog. Why have you brought the First Amendment into it?

That being said, the bill proposal is a joke. It's up to the people running the blogs to set the terms from what is and isn't acceptable.

 
at 11:03 PM, March 08, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

God Bless Willie and Rush. God Bless America. Yes, I must be a coward.

 
at 4:35 PM, March 09, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

You say "Generally speaking, I think people who put up anonymous postings and comments on the Internet are cowardly blowhards."

Does this mean the author-less editorials appearing on the on-line Enquirer Editorial page are written by cowardly blowhards?

 
at 9:18 AM, March 10, 2008 Blogger David Wells said...

Unsigned editorials are not authorless. They are the views of the newspaper as an institution and are the consensus product of the Editorial Board. And the names of those on the Editorial Board are clearly displayed across the bottom of the Editorial Page.

 
at 10:06 AM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Me thinks the "oldtimer" posting struck a touchy cord with Mr. Wells and his terse response:

'You say "Generally speaking, I think people who put up anonymous postings and comments on the Internet are cowardly blowhards."

Does this mean the author-less editorials appearing on the on-line Enquirer Editorial page are written by cowardly blowhards?

4:35 PM, March 09, 2008

I submit the responses of the anonymous "Cowardly Blowhards" are a collection of thoughts from the citizens of the area of Greater Cincinnati.

Hypocrites are a dime a dozen. The Enquirer's often are on sale too.

 
at 11:51 AM, March 10, 2008 Blogger Rachel said...

There's absolutely no right to free speech on a private blog. Why have you brought the First Amendment into it?

This was my thought, too. Unless a privately-owned blog or website has become the 51st state, a non-governmental organization is free to dictate the terms and information it requires of its commenters.

This bill is a ridiculous waste of taxpayers' money and Rep. Couch's time. Really, aren't there more important and pressing issues he can dedicate his time and public monies to? It sounds like he is trying to legislate his own personal vendetta.

 
at 10:35 PM, March 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice way to completely avoid the obvious point that guy was making.

It's not the Constitution that is the issue, it's the nasty reaction of people to a different opinion, and the fact that employers come looking to see what you're writing about. Like that makes you a bad person or something, so they won't hire you. Lighten up, already.

If this guy wants to stay anonymous, good for him. If some website wants to require that you tell all of us who you are and where you live, your phone number, or how many times you pee in a day, good for them too. That guy just won't post on that blog, that's all.

But since there's no right in the Constitution, why is there a LAW being thrown around about telling folks who you are? In other words, then you HAVE to tell people all that personal stuff on EVERY blog. That sucks.

Dump the law and keep things like they are. That way you'll get what people really think. Otherwise, blogging will be dead.

 
at 8:49 AM, March 11, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The blogging law proposal was a comical ruse. What was more revealing was the Enquirer Chief Editor's false bravado display of intellectual superiority and arrogance towards others (his customers). We'll soon learn whether the paper based newspaper will last another 10 years, as David Wells and his kind fade into oblivion. Was that 'cowardly blowhard' enough for you David?

 
at 4:27 PM, March 11, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I post anonymously because I am usually at work, have little time, and do not want to go through the process of remembering user names, passwords, etc.

 
at 9:11 AM, March 12, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I post anon because i'm a coward and blowhard. So what's your point?

 
at 1:50 AM, March 13, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

What, I should post with my real name? If I did, then my comments will show up every time anyone ever "Googles" me, for the rest of my life.. If not wanting prospective employers, girlfriends, business partners, etc.. to read every single comment I've ever made on the internet makes me a "cowardly blowhard", then so be it.

 
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