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Wednesday, October 17, 2007

PAVELISH ON THE STREETCARS

The streetcar discussion seems to be taking up a lot of media space the last few days and maybe it is time for me to share my thoughts. When I first heard about the streetcar coming to Cincinnati I thought, 'GREAT NEWS'. I am strong on economic development and I've been preaching to City Council for quite awhile " DO SOMETHING and DEVELOP SOMETHING"... The streetcar ,WOW, this is it. Then later I learned that the proposed route would go from north of Findlay Market --- travel to the Banks --- and return to north of Findlay Market again. Great , I own some land nearby and perhaps make a few bucks. Probably more than a few bucks. Portland, Oregon has the streetcar and boy, what a success. Some routes charge no fare to ride. I spoke with a few friends in Portland and though they did not ride the streetcars they were pleased to have them there. And Cincinnati wants to copy the Portland plan. Great...And Atlanta has a streetcar system plan also and ready to go.

Now why did the streetcar system work in Portland so well? In the 1990's Portland was a GROWING city in need of transportation. The nations young professionals were moving to the Pacific Northwest and to Portland. The streetcar became a major sounce of transportation in Portland just as Metro buses are here and of course it succeeded. And much of the same can be said of Atlanta.

Most older cities do not have streetcars. WHY?? Maybe the streetcar fiasco in Buffalo should be a warning and the answer. Buffalo's streetcar program was a failure. Buffalo is a older city with a DECLINING population. Buffalo is not a very exciting city (though I enjoy the people of Buffalo very much). And Buffalo has a large bus system. Does this sound familiar??


If Cincinnati builds the streetcar system by the proposed date of 2010 and the Banks project may be completed by as late as 2027... it looks like the streetcar will loop from north of Findlay Market to the Banks THAT WON'T BE READY BY 2027 and back to north of Findlay. What am I missing here?? Plus, the streetcars are made in the Czech Republic. That's right, the Czech Republic...


And finally, who owns or controls much of the land that would benefit from Streetcar Phase I ?? It is not Pavelish and it is not you. Just follow the money and see which Councilmembers push this proposal thru.


Are we getting streetcar Portland or are we getting streetcar Buffalo??? And, again, don't forget to follow the money.


http://www.pavelish.com/


6 Comments:

at 8:44 AM, October 18, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buffalo's system is not a streetcar system It's light rail/subway, something Cincinnati refuses to embrace.

 
at 9:53 AM, October 18, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Already beat me to the comment about it being light rail not a streetcar, but downtown is growing. Population has nearly doubled since 2000. OTR is growing, look at the hundreds of new condos. A streetcar will focus and spur more growth an development all along the line. The Banks will be build east to west, not all at once, so the streetcar will run through the first part to be completed, hopefully well before 2027.

 
at 11:24 AM, October 18, 2007 Blogger Sean F. said...

Light rail and streetcars are two different things with two different purposes. Light rail is built to get those from the far reaches of the city in, whereas our streetcar system is meant to provide an economic base within the city center. Buffalo does not have a streetcar, and the failure of the light rail is a misleading statement at best.

 
at 9:46 PM, October 18, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buffalo's system only goes 6 miles and travels through much of the downtown. There are sections where it goes underground (not a subway) and there are sections where it adds to the traffic problems above ground. Some city store owners want to remove sections of track and bring back more parking for cars. Ridership is rapidly declining and the system stinks.

 
at 9:46 PM, October 18, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Buffalo's system only goes 6 miles and travels through much of the downtown. There are sections where it goes underground (not a subway) and there are sections where it adds to the traffic problems above ground. Some city store owners want to remove sections of track and bring back more parking for cars. Ridership is rapidly declining and the system stinks.

 
at 7:49 AM, October 19, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I grew up in Buffalo. You need to get your facts straight before even using their system as a comparison to Cincinnati's proposed streetcars.

Buffalo's Metro Rail is a light-rail system that runs mostly underground from the Theater District out to UB's main campus, a distance of about 5 miles. The rest (about 1 mile) runs above ground down the middle of Main Street right in the heart of the city, which was converted to a pedestrian mall to accommodate the rails. To say that it adds to the "traffic problems" means that you have never been to Buffalo. It no more negatively affects cross-traffic than a normal lighted intersection, as the trains also follow the signals. "Traffic problems" is not generally a term used in the same sentence as "downtown Buffalo".

While you are correct about Main St. business owners wanting to restore vehicular traffic to increase business (a project which is in the works), to say that ridership is "rapidly" declining is false. Saying the system stinks is certainly your opinion, but given that you obviously have never even ridden on it, much less seen it in action, gives your opinion very little weight.

 
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