Iraq vs. what else we could have bought
Should we think very carefully before we add 4 million children to the State Children's Health Insurance program rolls? Should we have frank and cool-headed discussions about entitlement, dependence on governmental support, expansion of services to families and individuals who in the past would have been considered middle-income?
An estimated $7 billion annual increase for the next five years is a huge sum of money, and worthy of our scrutiny and prudence.
It all makes sense to me until I lay it alongside the figure of $577 billion spent on Iraq and Afghanistan, and the $190 billion more that's being requested.
Addressing the health needs of children is an investment, not a gamble. It is putting money toward prevention, not dragging out a cause that, each day, becomes clearer it is one we cannot win.
Sure, let's be prudent before we expand care to children who might have other means of coverage, or before we commit ourselves to long-term health spending we may not be able to sustain. But let's apply that same prudence to military spending that seems to be without boundaries or benchmarks.
You can't take $577 billion out of the budget without thinking about what else it could have bought.
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Children's Health Care. I'm lucky that I don't have to include my kids on my insurance plan. Being a single working mom-I work full time as a nurse, a family plan costs considerably more than a single plan. I'm lucky because they are covered on their dad's insurance plan. But I can see the plight of several women and men that don't have that luxury, that don't have an ex that can pick that expense up, and to know that I could get coverage for my kids if my ex lost his job may certainly mean the difference between making my mortgage and car payments on time, especially if something catastrophic should happen. It's scary that we could lose so much. I don't think this is something that would be taken advantage of either, especially if it was presented as an alternative to private healthcare in change of life or catastrophic situtions. I've witnessed the nightmare of no insurance coverage firsthand in a pediatric hospital. Unfortunatly, I think our president will veto the bill anyway.
I cannot comment on this particular plan since I have not investigated the particulars, but I am categorically in favor of rudimentary universal health care for all. I don't worry as much as some about the specter of too much government (another subject) since I feel that the government business model (slow, resistant to change) is ideal for the maintenance of basic societal services, vs. the constantly changing needs of a profit making business model where retooling needs to be done fast to remain competitive (to wit: the confusion attendent to the medicare changes, made as a political sop, not as carefully thought out social structure).
I'd like to offer a personal experience too. My husband and I (childless, educated, never unemployed) moved back to Cincinnati to care for my widowed mother who will "age in place" in her home (another situation where there is no consistent social safety net). We carefully planned since we have "jobs" not careers and those are not as easily transferred in our otherwise mobile society. Although it was nerve wracking to leave two good jobs and have to start over, by far, the most worrisome thing was possibly being without health insurance before finding new employment. COBRA was extraordinarily expensive.
Our automobile industry is learning fast enough that they can't be competitive with burden of providing health insurance. This is what Clinton tried to correct, but he was doublecrossed by giving Wall St. and the corporate interests, NAFTA, and then assuming they would play fairly by helping him to retool the health insurance industry.
Let's get it right, folks.
socialized medicine. i say, bring it on. lets cure them over here before we let them die over there.
there is so much we could have done with the money that the neocons have stolen for their iraq folly and misplaced adventures in afghanistan. will the shrub veto schip. you bet, he's from the party that loves the fetus but hates the child. even the childrens that do learn.
Too bad the USA did not stay out of WWII and leave Hitler alone. Think of all the health care and road repair we could afford today if we would not have lost millions of lives and trillions of dollars (inflation adjusted) in the cost of WWII.
Too bad. If only we left Hitler's European War to the Europeans. Can we not avoid this same mistake as Krista suggests to Iraq and the Middle East's war on Terrorism? If only we leave them alone they would leave us alone. Just as Krista believes.
We could live with Hitler. We can live with fundamental Islamic Terrorists too. Just leave them alone.
If the government was going to spend $577 billion on something without thinking, then the health care system would have been a better option than a war in Iraq; however, at this point the situation in Iraq is not stable enough for an immediate evacuation of US troops, so I don't know if we have any option other than to pour more money into the seemingly endless war.
However, I am for universal health care and think it's as worthy a cause as any out there.
Socialized medicine is great! Just ask the toothless Londoners, the Canadians who travel to USA for lifesaving care, and the communists who learn to live short lives without state of the art healthcare, for the good of the motherland.
1:49 PM Oct. 1st:
Gee whiz, can't you imagine something more complex which would provide basic care for all and a tiered benefit structure for those who want a more comprehensive care and can afford it(including $40,000 coronary by-passes for people who want to eat crap for 30-40 years....)?
I'm going to be toothless right here in the mother (father?) land very shortly if I have to keep paying $800.00 bucks for a crown and no dentist is willing to pull 'em all and give me false teeth.
Not everythign should be such a threat. We're Americans after all and we can get it right.
Good point Anon 2:57pm .
Just because socialism has failed every else in comparision to capitalism of the USA, doesn't mean we can't run a better socialist society in the USA.
In America we do things better, so I'm sure our socialism would succeed.
The Republicans in Washington are out of touch with the American people:
More than seven in 10 support the planned $35 billion [SCHIP] spending increase, and only 25 percent are opposed. About half of Americans "strongly" support the increased spending; 17 percent are that firmly against the additional money. And the program expansion has majority support across party lines: Eighty-one percent of Democrats, 69 percent of independents and 61 percent of Republicans are in favor.
I'm shocked to read in the Enquirer the phrase, ". . .a cause that, each day, becomes clearer it is one we cannot win." Can it be true that the Enquirer has finally awakened to reality? Is the Enquirer really ready to give up its goal of being the last newspaper in the country to come out against the war (9 months after the Toledo Blade)? Can we expect a hard-hitting editorial any day now condemning Bush's Folly for what it really is? Nah, probably not.
Spend 7 billion a year on children when it could go to big Republican-donor contractors in Iraq like Blackwater? No wonder this plan is dead on arrival when it hits the White House. American children vs. Friends-of-Dubya is no contest.
.....and the one woman socialist/communist crusade continues. I'll give you credit for being a devoted and consistent propoganist for your misguided socialist cause.
To: 11:19 AM Oct. 2nd
Wha?? Which one is a socialist? Which one a woman? What are you talking about? We're just trying to get our health care system straightened out and we can't do it if we don't talk about it.
Are you happy with the current system? Will you have health care when you've retired and don't have an employer teat - so much better than a government one? Give some real world comments, please and thank you.
Live with Hitler? Certainly more lives were lost in the Holocaust than to insufficcient health care. People with power have an obligation to help those in need. The Jews were in need, and the US joined the effort to help them. I suppose you're against giving aid to those in Darfur as well.
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