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Sunday, October 15, 2006

They really said that

So what do Nikki Giovanni and Chris Finney have in common? They both have a foul-mouthed approach to political commentary.

Giovanni, a nationally celebrated poet raised in Cincinnati, was invited to recite her original poem, "I am Cincinnati," at Saturday's rededication of Fountain Square. The recitation listed many thngs that Cincinnati is, and a few that Giovanni thinks it is not, including "that son of a b---- Kenny Blackwell."

Finney, an attorney and staunch ally of Republican Hamilton County Commissioner Phil Heimlich, unleashed a stream of vulgarity at Heimlich's challenger, David Pepper, at a Pepper press conference two weeks ago. Among other comments, he invited Pepper to kiss his backside.

OK, the first amendment guarantees free speech and who am I to suggest putting a muzzle on political comment. And the Square is supposed to be an open-air soapbox. But it has been previously noted in this blog that civil discourse should be the preferred debating form in a democracy.

It may have given Giovanni and Finney each a momentary thrill to go over the top against politicians they despise, but it probably didn't help their arguments or their preferred candidates.


15 Comments:

at 9:41 AM, October 16, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting, but it seems that the debate sparked over Nikki G's characterization of Blackwell center on whether the occassion was appropriate or not.

No one is arguing the veracity of the statement.

 
at 11:14 AM, October 16, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was shocked by the words of the poem cited at the opening of the "New Fountain Square"...I am so happy I didnt waste my sunday to go listen to the poet on her soapbox in the most inappropriate setting possible...I am sure there were kids present in the audience. what kind of message are we sending to people that want to gather at our new "gathering spot"?

 
at 11:20 AM, October 16, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I not only believe Nikki behave shamefully given the occasion, I believe her veracity has to do with something more shameful. Blackwell is a black conservative which scares the "beegeebees" out of the black liberal leaders trying to keep the base under tight control. After all, that's not suppose to happen - a black person willing to follow conservative beliefs. Thusright or wrong, his character must be destroyed!

 
at 11:22 AM, October 16, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was shocked by the words cited at the grand unveiling of Fountain square by the famous poet..I am so glad I didnt waste my Sunday afternoon to hear someone on their soapbox at the most inappropriate place. My tax dollars paid for the inveiling and the content of the poem should have been reviewed and approved beforehand. I feel sorry for the parents that brought their children downtown for what should have been a happy gathering at our new "gathering place"...The city should issue an apololgy!

 
at 12:02 PM, October 16, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I could not believe what I was reading. This "poem" was read at a celebration of a Cincinnati landmark?

She owes an apology to the city of Cincinnati and should bever be allowed to speak at a city event again.

 
at 12:48 PM, October 16, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen. At least she has the guts to tell the truth.

 
at 1:14 PM, October 16, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:14--It was a good thing you didn't "waste your Sunday," to go down to the square as the event was on Saturday.

As far as character asassanation goes, there's no need. Blackwell has taken care of that himself.

When his fellow-Republican President calls him a "nut," there is really nothing lese that needs to be said.

 
at 2:26 PM, October 16, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nikki Giovanni was a woman I respected greatly...until I heard her in person when she came to my college a few years ago. Some of the things she said were borderline racist. She is free to say as she likes, which I love her for, but I think she tends to cross the line, making me lose some of my respect.

 
at 2:28 PM, October 16, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My tax dollars paid for the inveiling and the content of the poem should have been reviewed and approved beforehand"

Wow...that's pretty unbelievable. Isn't that called...censorship? That's Cincinnati for ya.

 
at 6:34 AM, October 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are qualities possessed by some people that really turn me off. Three of those are: pretentiousness, a pathological need for attention, and a perpetual belligerent attitude. Nikkkkkkki Giovanni possesses all three abundantly. Born Yolande Cornelia Giovanni Jr. (yes, "Junior"), she felt that she would get more attention if she changed her name to "Nikki" (with two K's). (I'm thinking of changing my name to "Fer3ren", with the "3" being silent.) She is the kind of "poet" who doesn't feel obligated to adhere to traditional rules of rhyme and meter, and as a result, the stuff she pumps out is not "art", in my opinion. One wonders how she landed her position at Virginia Tech, by the way. Was it talent, or a sop to the gods of "diversity?" And yet, as is evident by some of the postings at this site, she will always have her fan club, no matter how clearly she reveals herself as a racist malcontent.

 
at 8:53 AM, October 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nikki Giovanni is a home grown talent forged by the radicalism of the 60's and 70's--Malcolm X & the Black Panthers. What was expected when she recited her poem?
Amen Nikki, saying things that need to be said are what the "town square" is for-- we can argue was it appropriate for the ear's of minors, my guess is that much worse is heard by minors from their parents at home or on the television set in the family room. Indeed it is interesting that noone is arguing the veracity of the statements on how former Charterite um I mean "a charter reform Democrat, into a Carter Democrat, then a New Democrat, then an Independent, then a moderate Republican, then a conservative Republican, and is now the state’s leading reactionary right-wing Republican." Mr. Blackwell has Blackwell has always represented opportunism in search of a political position (I am not a political whore jumping from bed to bed to see who will stroke my knee)... Blackwell was officially censured for running a “get out the vote” operation in the Secretary of State’s office which included making calls and leaving messages on voters’ phones on Election Day.(son of a bitch)

 
at 1:46 PM, October 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The entire poetic "tribute" was a farce, and a lazy attempt at that....from name calling to finger pointing to foodstuffs (I am a chili cheese hot dog...I am a rib...I am NOT KFC, because then I would be Covington)

As a city, can we catch a break?

 
at 7:38 PM, October 17, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

For someone who didn't go to the fountain square dedication or listen to the "Poem" by Giovanni and noone besides the last person seems to remembers any other content of the "Poem" other than the tirade...not the legacy a 'Cincinnati' gal, even if she is an activist, wants to leave behind. Too bad Nikki.

 
at 12:37 PM, October 19, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

At first I was upset by Ms. Giovanni's comments because the formum was inappropriate, after Mr. Blackwell's recent attempt to introdue the issue of homosexuality into the governor's race I am upset that Ms. Giovanni didn't go far enough in her criticism of Blackwell.

 
at 3:37 PM, October 22, 2006 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nikki G's comments were pitiful and sad. This was supposed to be a celebration for the city. It was not supposed to be an event for a single mouthpiece to have her political agenda broadcast without fair rebuttal. Did the committee not review the dialogue to see if it was appropriate. This type of poor city management is just one more reason why I have chosen to keep my occupation and my dollars out of the city limits

 
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