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Wednesday, March 21, 2007

You can't get there from here -- yet: UPDATED

People who have lived in or visited metropolitan areas similar to ours – or simply residents frustrated from trying to get from Point A to Point B without a car – will tell you that our region is way behind the curve when it comes to public transportation. So Hamilton County Commissioner Todd Portune’s proposal this week to create a regional transit board, while short on details, is certainly worth noting.
Portune says he’d like to see the new board, which would embrace but go beyond the Southwest Ohio Regional Transit Authority (SORTA, the Metro bus folks), off and running by this summer. He’d have it gradually incorporate Butler, Warren and Clermont counties, then Northern Kentucky and southeastern Indiana to develop a more comprehensive bus system with cross-county and inter-county connections.
This is going to have to happen sooner or later, and it may as well happen now. Our area’s changing demographics and population patterns are making the current SORTA system’s scope, and its downtown-centric routing paradigm, seriously outmoded. And it simply doesn’t have the resources to become a truly comprehensive system.
A lot of tricky and nasty politics will be involved, of course, with the chronic city vs. suburbs tension in play. It will require buy-in – literally – from communities outside Cincinnati and Hamilton County.
Portune also mentions adding light rail to the mix – still a sore subject since Hamilton County voters turned down a proposed $2.6 billion system in 2002. The Enquirer editorial board opposed that plan as having too many question marks. But we took great pains to praise its “MetroMoves” component, an expanded and reconfigured bus system. We said SORTA should implement it first, then build support for a refined, perhaps more limited light-rail vision.
That’s not unlike what Portune is proposing now. It’s about time.

UPDATE, March 23:

Commissioner Todd Portune sent me an e-mail today with specifics that address some of the points raised by this post and by readers' comments on it. Here's what Portune had to say:

"We expect that this discussion will lead to the formation of a new entity that encompasses our four-county metro area in SW Ohio at a minimum. There is some talk of perhaps expanding to include Clinton and Montgomery counties -- especially given the high volume of traffic in the Cin-Day corridor.

"As for light rail, the start will be out the Eastern Corridor using existing rail and DMUs [Diesel Movable Units], which are passenger trains that look futuristic but run on diesel and use existing track. The county Transportation Improvement District this year will act at my direction to choose a preferred alternative on connecting the track from the Montgomery Ribs Boathouse to the downtown transit center. The TID will also begin action toward presenting a demonstration project on the route.

"It is possible that as early as 2010 passenger service from Milford to downtown with a side line from Red Bank to Xavier University will be in service under our lead and all without the necessity of a tax increase.

"As for bus service, we are taking the Metro Moves bus proposals of 2002 as the Gold Standard and working to implement that plus integrate service to Butler Warren and Clermont and their system improvements. Service to the disabled will be improved and expanded beyond the I-275 outer belt.

"I also expect that we will introduce Trolley shuttle service circulating downtown along as many as four different routes that would likely run continuously between: a) our three river cities; b) our places of culture and entertainment; c) our places of government and business; and d) between downtown and uptown, the University and medical complex including, perhaps, the zoo."


18 Comments:

at 10:42 PM, March 21, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forget metro public transportation; nobody wants to go anywhere in Cincinnati. Spend the money on high-speed trains to Columbus and Cleveland.

 
at 10:55 PM, March 21, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rick's an idiot - boards are the free way of getting the best and most knowledgable to the table to study an issue and develop rational, non-political, resolutions.

My hats off to the dedicated professionals in our community from the big corporations, small business owners and advocates who volunteer their time ( which is money) to such community interests.

I'll bet Rick has never sat on a board without expecting a pay out.

 
at 11:00 PM, March 21, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Public transportation is an equality issue - and too often a criminal issue. People who don't have access to transportation or who chose to drive without required insurance - are denied employment and housing opportunities that are available to the rest of us.
Hamilton County suburbs should embrace and champion this cause, if only to defuse the saturation of poor in THEIR nieghborhoods - without transit and a sharing of the burden - crime will flourish and stagnation will become the rule.

 
at 10:53 AM, March 22, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

In my opinion who ever said public transportation is a waist in Cincinnati because there is no place to go must be a shut in of some type. Our city is filled with good history as well as a variety of exciting places to visit. If you are a parent, grandparent or simply someone out for an adventure a good Mass Transit system would be a plus for our city and surrounding communities. The only thing wrong with the system now is ease and accessibility for a wider range of individuals. I use the Metro several times a year simply for a break in driving to and from work. The drivers as well as the passengers are always friendly. Gas prices are only going to go up so get Cincinnati out of the dark ages and up to speed with a good Mass Transit system.

 
at 11:19 AM, March 22, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Portune's idea is smart. He isn't necessarily committing the government to anything the voters don't want. What he's doing is not political grandstanding or overly heavy-handed. He just wants the region to consider expanding its pathetic excuse for a transit system.

I agree with Anonymous 11:00 who calls it a civil rights issue. Anonymous 10:42, apparently you are unaware of the tens of thousands of poor people in Cincinnati who have limited or no transportation options, while our tax dollars almost exclusively subsidize highways for those of us who can afford to drive.

Beyond that, as the person who posted this story alluded, any kind of effort to get something done on a regional level in Cincinnati could run into serious obstacles. I'm not just talking about lack of public support - in fact I think Cincinnatians will support transit. (Last time the issue came up, gas prices were low, zero politicians endorsed it, global warming was not much of an issue, the rationale for tax increase was not well-publicized, and to top it off, its opponents were very organized and effective in killing it).

To get back on topic, I think the real problem is our lack of any sort of a mechanism to get things done on a broader level than Hamilton County. As it is, Cincinnati and Hamilton Co. have been clashing for decades. Just imagine how difficult it will be to build a regional transit system without any sort of regional or metro government to bring counties (and even states!) together in this process.

If this region wants to fix any of its problems, transit being a significant one, it first has to acknowledge the fact that what we call "Cincinnati" (not Cincinnati proper) extends into a number of counties and encompasses well over a million people, stretching from the old city to the first suburbs to the exurbs. We always want to talk about ourselves as the 'such and such'-ranked metro area in the country, but we never seem willing to consolidate government like other cities are now considering, and Portland, OR has done with tremendous success.

I can guarantee this issue will never go away, and that the Cinti metro area will NEVER be able to implement much-needed regional policies until it forms some sort of a metro government with at least some amount of actual authority.

 
at 11:22 AM, March 22, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The light rail topic failed because those trying to get it through brought the wrong people into the discussion. The focus must be on the financial aspects, implementation, subsidization, etc. You don't bring the Sierra Club into conservative Cincinnati to gain support for your environmentally friendly initiative. That immediately creates a polarized discussion.

Portune needs to focus on getting all the ideas on one table and sorting through them. You cannot trade financial concerns with environmental or social ones.

I think with Strickland in, the likelihood of it happening is in the air, but perhaps not enough to overcome the political/financial smog.

"I'm not paying higher taxes so some [insert ethnicity here] person up in [insert low-income area here] can get to the [welfare/unemployment] office or to [rob a bank/have a conjugal jail visit/other cynicism fodder]."

Defeat that.

 
at 11:58 AM, March 22, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are correct anon 11:00pm. The Metro is a crime issue. Statistically, crime is higher along the bus routes. The Bus stops are a place for unwanted loitering, destruction of private property, and littering.

unfortunately, I know first-hand.

 
at 12:14 PM, March 22, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Metro is a crime issue. Statistically, crime is higher along the bus routes..."unwanted loitering, destruction of private property, littering."

Good grief. Crime is an issue of poverty, but the Metro doesn't exist for poor people. Are you thankful for the Metro system because without it, there would be crime along the WALKING ROUTES?!? You eliminate crime via criminal enforcement and decreasing poverty.

Did someone compel you to look or interact with loitering people, or why did you place your private property close to a bus stop, or perhaps how were you a victim of littering?

It's almost funny. Via gas prices, us rich folk are having to consider blending in with the po' folks. Hilarious. Only in Cincinnati!

 
at 1:12 PM, March 22, 2007 Blogger shingshong hahhwahh said...

I think it's important to realize that the same people who are so incredibly against light-rail transportation are the same people who 1. will be retired within the next decade and therefore won't be sitting in traffic for 2-3 hours/day 2. are most likely to leave Cincinnati for a retirement in the sunbelt and 3. are also the same people people who are least likely to EVER utilize public transportation to begin with. I would also bet that these same people have never spent considerable time in cities like D.C., Boston, Chicago, NYC... So they can't even begin to know the hundreds of ways a metro-rail system enhances a cities economy.

I am 30 years old, and I can't count the number of "Cincinnati's best and brigtest" who have left for cities like Boston, Chicago, and Washington D.C. Why did they leave? They wanted the vibrant, walking-city urban lifestyle that Cincinnati lacks. They were incredibly bored growing up in tract developments in the middle of nowhere. They wanted to spend 20-40% of their time and income NOT on drive-time and automobiles but instead on early evenings with friends at pubs, bistros, entertainment venues...

They don't have to sit in traffic for 40 minutes every time they need to run out for food or whatever. When they need something they forgot to buy at the grocery store, they can run down the block and get it in 15 minutes or less. When they need to go to the airport, they can spend $2 on a train ride, $80 on a cab, or $180 to park in the airport garage for 2 weeks.

And at least half of that 20-40% not being spent on cars is spent on home equity. Condos in D.C. are not cheap, but their expense is feasible when you're not spending a third of your earnings on automobiles (+gas, insurance and upkeep). I should also mention that the real estate values in neighborhoods with public transportation stops have shot way up in recent years as traffic has worsened.

LET'S THINK LONG RANGE FOR ONCE. Cincinnati can only benefit from a comprehensive metro-rail system. Even die-hard drivers will benefit when tens of thousands of would-be drivers are not jamming the expressways.

 
at 1:28 PM, March 22, 2007 Blogger shingshong hahhwahh said...

Here's my suggested light-rail route: A light-rail route above I-75 between Downtown Cincinnati and the Dayton Airport. People in Cincinnati could easily take jobs in Dayton or anywhere in between. People in Dayton would have the option of NOT clogging
I-75 during rush hour. And we could all benefit from a high speed train to an airport that benefits Cincinnati far more than CVG.

 
at 8:17 PM, March 22, 2007 Blogger Ant the Rogue One said...

I think this board would be a good idea if it was actually given power to implement common sense and fiscal prudent means for our out dated transporation system. I find it funny how those against expanded bus service or a mix of buses/street cars/light rail, have no qualms about the Feds, State and Local governments spending millions on expanding the Interstates, which will never get us out of gridlock.

Oh, I forgot, the wider interstates will allow for faster flight out of the city.

 
at 7:17 AM, March 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The NIMBYs will never allow anything "progressive" like light rail to materialize in Cincinnati. They'll hide behind the farcical argument that "no one will use light rail" when in reality they just don't want anything to change.

Busses don't cut it. They have to sit in the same traffic that the cars do.

Considering it's taken - what, 10 years to do anything with The Banks project, it will be a small miracle if I see light rail in Cincinnati in my lifetime.

 
at 7:38 AM, March 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crime and strong law enforcement of criminals is seldom an issue for Liberals, until it negatively impacts them directly. Liberals own hypocrisy!

 
at 7:39 AM, March 23, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Crime and strong law enforcement of criminals is seldom an issue for Liberals, until it negatively impacts them directly. Liberals own hypocrisy!

 
at 12:19 AM, March 25, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm with Michael, and would expand the idea by saying just build high-speed trains to Columbus, Indianapolis, and Louisville as well as Dayton, so we can have quick access to airports that serve humans instead of corporations. If not, our only hope is that we'll get lucky and Delta will finally go bankrupt so we can get some low-cost carriers in here.

 
at 12:31 AM, March 25, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love the idea of the shuttle - trolley going through the three cities (though I couldn't imagine why Ky would cooperate in sharing their visitor base with us - I don't think they can stop it)
And, I think a shuttle service winding through the downtown areas themselves would be a hoot!
FIrst stop, this end of the purple people bridge.
It's kind of getting a little exciting on this side of the river

 
at 9:55 AM, March 26, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

In case you missed it, the Purple People Bridge Attraction is a financial flop.

 
at 11:25 AM, March 28, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

9:55am I think you meant to write that walking the structural arches for two hours at $30 is a financial lost.

Walking from Ohio to Ky over the "free to the public" deskway is great!

 
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