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Tuesday, February 05, 2008

The courage to talk about what we believe

Are we living in an age of increased tolerance of religious, political and cultural differences, or is it getting more uncomfortable than ever to discuss such matters or publicly live out religious and philosophical beliefs?

That tension was a topic of discussion yesterday when the editorial board met with officials of the Cincinnati chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. It can lead some people to publicly disavow their faith, to live as religiously neutral as possible. It can lead others to build relationships almost exclusively with people of their own faith, effectively insulating themselves from other points of view and the debate and discomfort that can accompany such contacts.

What is then missing, as the CAIR leaders eloquently reminded us, is dialogue, an exchange of viewpoints, deeper understanding of other faiths (or political beliefs)and a platform on which to build healthy and diverse relationships.

It sometimes does feel "safer" to be a get-along, go-along kind of person who shies away from controversial beliefs, or to surround oneself with people who feel exactly as you do about issues.

How sad if we are losing the ability -- and personal integrity -- to commit deeply to political, ethical or religious beliefs. And how frightening if we no longer feel safe, or know how to, discuss them with others in civil discussion.


17 Comments:

at 7:19 PM, February 05, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the Enquirer truly cared about fostering an environment where people could share their beliefs with others "in civil discussion," the very first thing they should do is discontinue Peter Bronson's column. He's the main reason I cancelled my subscription to your paper.

 
at 8:43 AM, February 06, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

krista, great point. It's frightening how liberals demonize those who do not agree with them as:
-not caring for the little children.
-only thinking of the rich.
-only for the big corporations.
-against protecting the environment.
-uncaring for the poor and homeless.
-against public education.
-against advancement of minorities.

It sure gets old listening to their tried and true message of hatred for conservative values during the past 40 years.

 
at 5:42 PM, February 06, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:43 AM, February 06, 2008 Anon-

Don't forget that all conservatives are Bible thumping, bigoted, "religious whack jobs" (in the words of the bold type, foot tapper that plagues the local politics blog.)

 
at 10:25 PM, February 06, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do we need an exchange of viewpoints on religion? You have your religion, I have mine, I don't care about your viewpoint on religion, and frankly, I would just assume you kept your religious viewpoints to yourself and not exchange them with me.

 
at 7:47 AM, February 07, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 8:43

Had to get a lick in, right? Nice passive-aggressive post.

The reason people can't discuss things rationally and civilly most of the time is that they care TOO much. That happens when they feel personally threatened or marginalized, I think. I have a religious faith and even beliefs about how our society should be run. At the end of the day, as I assess the day's news, I realize that I'm one of many and that someone else's views may prevail at that time. I can live with that. There's tomorrow, there's never, there's forever.

That's a philosophical approach, I realize, but that's really what it takes to approach something with a clear eye. But anger and polarization comes from deep inside and a highly PERSONAL agenda. The human animal is not that unselfish: I just can't get that worked up over someone else,unless that someone else is a mirror image of me: same church?, my child?, etc.

The wise, productive thing to do is to expand your reach by seeing everyone as your responsibility.

I'm middleaged and that's what the 60s culture did for me. I have a peacful heart.

 
at 10:10 AM, February 07, 2008 Blogger Jansky T said...

And, right here, we have two anonymous commenters who are demonstrating exactly what Krista is talking about. "Discontinue Peter Brosnan's column. He's the reason I cancelled my subscription."

Just imagine the frustration that built up within Anon1. There was so much of it that it became impossible to just simply ignore Bronson's column. It becasme so bad that the subscription to the WHOLE PAPER had to be removed.

And then Anon2, who says "Great point", proceeds to make a sweeping generalization about ALL liberals. They, the liberals, demonize those who don't agree with them. Sounds to me like any communication between Anon2 and a liberal won't be possible, because Anon2's mind is already made up.

And to address Krista's article, I think that there have always been issues with discussing religious, philosophical, or political beliefs. Always. From the beginning of time. And it all comes down to ego. Every single time, it's about ego. "I want to be the smartest." "I want to be the most powerful." "My beliefs are 'right' and yours are 'wrong.' And it's about fear. "If I'm not the smartest, I won't be respected." "If I'm not the most powerful, I'll have no control over what happens in my life." "If I'm wrong about this, then what about everything else I believe?"

Spanish Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials, The Holocaust, The KKK...all of it is about ego and fear. And if we could just let go of that, if we can get past turning discussions and disagreements into personal attacks, humanity could be quite a force to be reckoned with.

But I don't think we're anywhere close.

 
at 10:58 PM, February 07, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kevin, Excellent. It all comes down to EGO - but good luck convincing the crowd.

I also have a big problem with Bronson - anyone can take a position and find some supporting stats/quotes to support it. He does this routinely and it's laughable..

 
at 10:04 AM, February 08, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes, the truth does hurt at times and its easier to ignore reality.

 
at 10:37 AM, February 08, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

The liberal progressives have won for now. The USA will get what it deserves. The USA will get 4 more years of the Bush/Clinton/Obama/McCain socialistic policies. The governement will strengthen the 60's Great Society policies of being Master to all citizens, keep them on the plantation to garner the next vote. Conservative ideals of individualism and self responsibility have lost for now. As a conservative i'll vote for Obama over Clinton or McCain. We know what we get with Clinton/McCain, the same liberal policies and weak leadership. With Obama, I'll give the new guy a chance, even though his madrassa training scares me.

 
at 5:23 PM, February 08, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Madrassa training? Obama hasn't had that. The Muslim heritage stuff was floated early on by potential political opponents to try to derail his campaign but he's never been Muslim - I don't care, I'm just trying to set the record straight. If I'm wrong, could you give us your source of information about this training. Thanks.

 
at 12:44 PM, February 09, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

As USA politics lurches strongly to the Left, I want a Democrat leading the charge and taking the blame/credit.

Being stuck with the two party system of Liberal Democrat or Rino "Moderate" Republican really stinks.

 
at 6:08 PM, February 09, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Obama survives Hillary’s campaign trashing and then McCain’s trashing you’ll know any and all dirt on Obama, if any exists. Be patient.

 
at 11:22 AM, February 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding the first comment "discontinue Peter Bronson's column".

Wow. In a paper that has become increasingly liberal, silencing the one conservative voice so you don't have to tolerate an opinion different from yours.

That's the answer!

BTW: Have you considered moveon.org, I think you'd be very happy there.

 
at 5:03 PM, February 10, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

MIKE HUCKABEE IS THE ANSWER.

'Nuff said. :)

 
at 10:23 AM, February 11, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm no HUCKABEE fan but i'd gladly take him over McCain/Clinton/OBama. Isn't it amazing how we've made running for USA president such an undesirable chore that we end up with such weak candidates.

 
at 12:37 PM, February 11, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Krista,

Nice try but I'm afraid this relates to another of your blogs about the performance of Ten Little Indians, wherein it was noted that people will say appalling things anonymously on blogs that they couldn't find a way to discuss with one another.

 
at 1:32 PM, February 18, 2008 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Krista, I agree that dialogue and understanding are urgently needed if we are to survive in this world. I have been very encouraged by the work of Eboo Patel, founder of the Interfaith Youth Core and author of Acts of Faith, a book I would recommend to everyone.

The Faith Club - A Muslim, A Christian, A Jew - Three Women Search for Understanding is another great book, a first-hand account of how the dialogue and understanding can begin. Another recommended read. I hope we can all be open-minded and willing to share viewpoints and our faiths.

 
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