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Sunday, November 25, 2007

Another side to the foreclosure story

Reader Chris Lemmon of Milford makes an excellent point regarding the home foreclosure crisis, subject of many recent Enquirer articles such as Sunday's Data Center report on A1, Forum and editorial: While the focus of the blame has been on "predatory lenders," complex loan deals and a tough economy, sometimes the families themselves bear responsibility for their plight by "falling into the consumerism trap" – borrowing money to fill their houses with the latest gadgets and enjoying a lifestyle they really can’t afford. Lemmon writes that homeowners have a duty to learn about their finances and act responsibly.

"There are three sides to every story -- the borrower's side, the lender's side, and the truth. I would bet that if you keep digging, you would find some of the borrowers were just plain greedy when choosing to purchase a home they couldn’t afford three years ago and certainly would never have been able to afford when the interest rates were raised," she writes.

While some homebuyers were uninformed, misled or just plain defrauded on the terms of their mortgages, it's a good bet that others simply chose to ignore those terms. In general, our society has all but discarded the notion of saving and spending wisely -- the "consumerism trap." As with most financial and social issues, there is -- or should be -- a strong dose of personal responsibility involved. We deny that need at our collective peril.


11 Comments:

at 10:57 AM, November 26, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least the Slabys didn't lose their home. God bless the innocent victims of "consumerism."

 
at 7:19 PM, November 26, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems to me that the majority of the foreclosures are the result of people buying way more house than they could afford. In these cases, you play with fire, you burn...
Don't blame the banks or the brokers. Blame the greed...

 
at 6:39 AM, November 27, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's get a handle on the myth that all these foreclosures were because of borrowers' greed or they were 'victims' of predatory lenders. Is anyone paying attention to the currents and riptides of today's economy? Oil at almost $100 a barrel and gasoline at over $3 a gallon. Have you not noticed that food prices are going up at your local Wal Mart or wherever you shop? Then consider the Fed raised rates 14 straight times a quarter point a pop -- all those Adjustable Rate Mortgages and prime goes up 4 points -- and what did Bernanke THINK would happen to the ARM borrowers? What we have here are victims, borrowers and lenders, and people are blaming the victims here. It's fun, it's easy and it's an agenda -- it's also an excuse for malfeasance by Bernanke and those who put him in place.

 
at 7:49 AM, November 27, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry if this is a repeat; not sure my last posting was sent.

Slaby? What a cold, pointless, belated comment. Point taken, but why is this festering in your thoughts? Usually, obsession has to do with envy, excesive misplaced anger or some other highly PERSONAL feelings. I ain't no psychiatrist, but you got issues.

On to the topic at hand:
I agree entirely that personal responsibility is called for in this, as in all matters. I find our consumer culture to be empty and unhealthy overall. To wit, the
vulgar spectacle of people getting up at all hours to drive miles on the day after Thanksgiving to buy things "on sale" which, in fact, have been marked up 3X.
Historically, real estate transactions were managed by local bankers who knew you and your family and your financial capabilities; these loan officers made decisions accordingly because the banks kept the debt on their own books to the benefit of both the banks and the potential borrower. Now, these sub-primes are packaged and sold to Wall Street, often the risky hedge funds, and once again in our society, the personal relationship is peeled away and it's all about $$$. When they tank, the lucky ones who have retirements funds get a negative blip on their Dow radar, and the poor people who've taken the loans face foreclosure.

Yes, the homeowners were greedy, as they've been taught to be in a culture that values little else. The same society that encourages enormous credit card debt and then changes the bankruptcy laws to protect the consumer lenders (now THOSE are some powerful lobbies to Congress.....), while for years, corporations have been able to languish in Chapter 11 reorganization indefinitely.

These people do deserve to learn a hard lesson, but let's spread the punishment around. The real question is why didn't the lenders offer safe sub prime loans like the FHAs? Because they are ETHICALLY bankrupt and feel no compunction to look out for their neighbor who may not be as bright or as wealthy. And worse, they don't even know who their neighbor is anymore.

My two inflated cents worth.

 
at 5:17 PM, November 27, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Bill Adkins,

First, I enjoy anonymity on the web for personal safety concerns so forgive me.

I feel that Bernanke has inherited the situation and that Greenspan was a political toady and water carrier for the administration(s). The economist, Paul Krugman (NYTimes OP Ed)has been tracking the real estate bubble for yrs. and predicted this long ago (needless to say he's received death threats and everything else from ardent supporters of Bush's economic "policy").

What should Bernanke have done instead of inching them up?

Regards,

In Hiding ;)

 
at 4:05 AM, November 29, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:49
You are so full of yourself you reek of self-promotion. Take your ego and inflated sense of self worth and preach to your flock.
Or go see a psychiatrist, oh high-minded hypocrite

 
at 2:19 PM, November 29, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 4:05 AM, November 29, 2007
This is 7:49 - sorry if I went over the top with my comment about the Slaby reference. My intention, even with my subsequent comments was to convey sympathy for "the little guy" or "the have nots" which includes me too. I have nothing except
my opinion, generally speaking. So, if I accidently offended you, I apologize.

 
at 6:01 PM, November 29, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 7:49 sorry for the return blast as well. I am a parent and the son of teachers, so the Slaby family is in my prayers. I picked up on the crass consumerism that leads some to irrationality, and found the link to the Slaby tragedy. Hope we can all be better people and work for the "little guy" and the weakest among us, so the predators are kept at bay.
No harm meant to anyone. 4:05 anon

 
at 8:19 PM, November 29, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

5:17 - didn't mean to leave Greenspan out, but it is Bernanke's watch. What he should have done is watched and waited - the market correction would have been much better than raising rates 14 straight times in an over reaction that has caused damage to the housing market. Now Bernanke's lowering rates - a quarter point at a time. And the markets are reacting, but it's quick short term fix now. Citibank's $750 Billion at 11% - that's a market positive? I think not. And those rate drops - will they save homes from foreclosure? There should be a new refi boom into fixed rates.

 
at 11:40 AM, December 01, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:19

Thank you! I just cannot retain basic economics formulations and relationships. I read it, I look at an example of something like Chinese imports are cheaper because.....and it relates to the dollar being weak because.....oops I forgot already.

My strength is social history and behaviors, and causes and effects. On that, I feel, I'm very perceptive.

That's why I asked you for a follow up explanation. Maybe I'll learn something. Sheesh.

 
at 11:09 AM, December 03, 2007 Anonymous Anonymous said...

There has to be personal responsibility when someone decides to make such a large investment. Perhaps no one ever told these folks to actually sit down and figure out what your payment is going to be for the life of the loan. With an ARM (adjustable rate mortgage), you have to look at every percentage point, ten points at least, above the introductory interest rate, to see just how high the payment could go. THEN make your decision to make the investment or not. I doubt highly that anyone told most of these people this, or that they even know how to use a financial calculator. For that reason, I would suggest to anyone in the sub-prime credit level to find someone with financial expertise who is NOT connected to the deal, and ask them to show you this information.

I also agree wth the comment about greed and needing everything in sight without paying for it; some folks are following the examples of our corporations when the rules are not the same.

There is something to be said for living within your means, using cash for everything (that means saving for a thing instead of the 'gimme that now' attitude) other than a mortgage, and trying to take the smallest mortgage possible when you do buy a house; pay for as much of that house up front as you can. You'll see less interest deduction on your tax form, but you'll still have a house in 6-8 years.

 
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